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Identifying an early part of the NYC subway system

I've been working on Richard Harper Laimbeer, whose NYT obit says "He was one of the commissioners appointed to determine the present route of the first Interborough subway between City Hall, New York and Borough Hall, Brooklyn". I haven't found any other references to this yet and would like to know exactly which part of the modern subway system this is so I can add that detail to his article. Does anyone here know what this refers to? Thanks for any help. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 13:35, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

@Mike Christie: That should be the Joralemon Street Tunnel (Lexington Avenue Line to the Eastern Parkway Line). Cards84664 16:31, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks; added a link to that article. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 17:55, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Invitation to contribute in new article, List of busiest railway stations

Hi. Gare du Nord states that "It is the busiest railway station in Europe by total passenger numbers, and the busiest outside Japan". I tried to check, but there is no world ranking reasonably up to date, so I created List of busiest railway stations as a humble stub. To make it right requires A LOT of work, you are most invited :) --Jbaranao (talk) 18:04, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

County Durham articles

Hi User: Pi.1415926535 redirected four stations at Demons Bridge railway station, Stillington railway station, Simpasture railway station and Saltersgate Cottage railway station. I've written these using sites like Disused Stations, Historic Rail Maps and some other news articles. Can we see these as being notable or are there any other links needed like books articles etc worth linking? DragonofBatley (talk) 19:42, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

None of these articles meet the notability guideline because there is not significant coverage in reliable, independent sources. Adding sources that scarcely mention the stations (if at all) does not demonstrate notability. I've nominated them for deletion:

• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Demons Bridge railway station
• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stillington railway station
• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Saltersgate Cottage railway station
• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Simpasture railway station

Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:03, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Parameter Tagging for Article Assessment

Hi! I'm a relatively new wikieditor (be kind!) and I have been working on rating WikiProject Trains articles. I'm using WP:RATER and I see where I can add parameters. Can someone give me an explanation of the parameters within WikiProject Trains? Some I can figure out myself but others I'm not sure about. Other questions: Is there a difference between "needs-map" "map-needed" "map-requested"? Should Stations be marked as a parameter within WikiProject Trains or Project Stations? Is there a good definition of what counts as a subway? Is it always underground? Thank you!! Pencilsforall (talk) 23:51, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

@Pencilsforall: The various parameters should all be documented at Template:WikiProject Trains#Parameters. As shown at Template:WikiProject Trains#Aliases, |meeds-map= is the primary parameter, the others are aliases with lower precedence. {{WikiProject Stations}} isn't often used for railway stations, for which setting |stations=yes in the {{WikiProject Trains}} is normally sufficient. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 17:26, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Some of these parameters are duplicates, as a result of templates being merged or different terminology being used in different parts of the world. When in doubt, try adding parameters manually and then previewing the result before submitting the edit, or copy formatting from established articles that are in good condition. I will say that I started out with doing assessments as a new editor, but quickly found it unrewarding compared to editing articles directly. It can seem intimidating at first, but improving articles is what servers our readers, 99% of whom will never even look at article talk pages or assessments. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 17:49, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! This was helpful. Pencilsforall (talk) 23:10, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Mezhdunarodnaya (Moscow Metro)#Requested move 7 June 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Mezhdunarodnaya (Moscow Metro)#Requested move 7 June 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ASUKITE 13:57, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

GA review requests

I’ve recently nominated two steam locomotive pages—Chicago and North Western 1385 and Texas and Pacific 610–and I was wondering if anyone could take the time to look them over and let me know if they’re eligible for the GA grade or not. Someone who likes train writing (talk) 22:57, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Editing map diagram for the North-South Commuter Railway

Hello, can I request that you edit a route-map template for the North-South Commuter Railway? For the New Clark City station, this should be underground, while the tracks will also run at grade before running elevated again, as well as an at-grade section beside a spur leading to Clark International Airport and transitioning into elevated again before a bridge above Clark Spur Road. Also, the spur line runs at grade up to Mabalacat Depot and a tunnel going to the airport station. Then, we put the elevated alignment above expressways like the Subic-Clark-Tarlac Expressway, the NLEX Harbor Link and its C-3 to R-10 segment, Skyway Stage 3, and the CAVITEX C-5 Link. The spur to the depots is located south of Meycauayan station and north of Calamba station. Thank you!Jussie2024 (talk) 22:07, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Copyright problem at Chesapeake and Ohio Railway

After an investigation it appears that the original version of Chesapeake and Ohio Railway is a copyright violation from the Chesapeake and Ohio Historical Society. Please see Talk:Chesapeake and Ohio Railway#Plagiarism for discussion. A complete rewrite may be necessary. Mackensen (talk) 14:55, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Category:Railway stations by company

Is there any guidance about whether "station" in this context means "depot", as in "building" or can it mean "place on a timetable where the train stopped" as in a location, not necessarily with an existing building? Thank you! Valfontis (talk) 04:20, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

I guess anything where trains (passenger or freight) stop and which has some infrastructure related to this stop? Ymblanter (talk) 11:08, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! So former stations would be the same thing? A place named on the timetable where the train once stopped? I ask because the category people didn't like a similar category I created years ago that was similar and I had trouble explaining that "station" does not equal "depot". Could you define "infrastructure" in this context? For former stops it's hard to prove they had any. Maybe a train orders office, or a siding, but what if there's pretty much nothing there? I assume there would have been a sign. Valfontis (talk) 04:09, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

If the question is specifically for former stations, the list/category must define whether these are included. I would say whether anything from the former station still exists is irrelevant, what is relevant is whether at any time moment the object was defined as a station (and sources can demonstrate this). Ymblanter (talk) 05:44, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

The word "depot" has WP:ENGVAR issues. The U.S. meaning seems to be a small passenger station; there are two British meanings: one is a goods-only station (these range in size from the huge Somers Town goods depot in London down to some that consisted of one or two sidings plus an office), the other is a maintenance facility for locomotives and coaches. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 17:26, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

RtM of interest to US editors of this WP?

For info, I have initiated an RtM at Talk:Right-of-way (property access)#Requested move 23 June 2024 that proposes Right-of-way (property access) → Right of way (railroad) --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 22:41, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Frisco Station#Requested move 8 June 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Frisco Station#Requested move 8 June 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 10:17, 24 June 2024 (UTC)