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Patriarch Neophyte of Bulgaria has died

I have nominated his passing for the main page at In the News Recent Deaths. Unfortunately, his article is not in good shape. Memory eternal. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:05, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

Peer review for Free and Candid Disquisitions

Hello, I am reaching out to see if anyone is interested in offering their opinions at Wikipedia:Peer review/Free and Candid Disquisitions/archive1. It's a book primarily about English religion and liturgy that had pretty significant consequences for a multitude of later efforts to revise the Book of Common Prayer. Thanks! ~ Pbritti (talk) 04:00, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

Is the Catholic Church just one denomination or is it a Denominational family/Communion of 24 particular churches?

The Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy, Oriental Orthodoxy, Anglicanism, Protestantism, Pentecostalism etc. are denominational families or traditions within Christianity as the relevant articles Christian denomination and List of Christian denominations imply. Christianity can be taxonomically divided into six main groups: the Church of the East, Oriental Orthodoxy, Eastern Orthodoxy, Roman Catholicism, Protestantism, and Restorationism. Within these six main traditions are various Christian denominations (for example, the Coptic Orthodox Church is an Oriental Orthodox denomination). The Catholic Church is a denominational family and each of the sui juris churches are distinct denominations with distinct liturgical rites, doctrines, culture, organisation and history. All the Eastern Catholic Church articles currently employ the infobox Template:Infobox Christian denomination. For example see List of Christian denominations, wherein the Syro-Malabar Church is listed along with the Roman/Latin and other Eastern Catholic Churches as denominations under the subheading 'Catholic Church' (denominational family).
The official website of the SMC says: The Syro-Malabar Catholic Church is one of the 23 Eastern (Oriental) Catholic Churches in full communion with Rome. It is the largest Eastern Catholic Church after the Ukrainian Church and the largest of the Saint Thomas Christian (Nazrani) denominations with 5 million believers.
Quoting the state census, KC ZACHARIAH (2016) says: Among the denominations in the Christian community, the Syro-. Malabar Catholics are the most dispersed denomination (Religious Denominations of Kerala). Logosx127 (talk) 15:39, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

The conversation is ongoing at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Catholicism#Is the Catholic Church a single denomination or a communion of 24?. Editors are encouraged to reply there. ~ Pbritti (talk) 15:39, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Iwerne camps article

I've started an article on the Iwerne camps. They held an important and sometimes controversial role in post-war Evangelicalism in the UK, particularly in the Church of England, before closing in 2020 following abuse scandals.

Existing coverage of the camps was in two articles - a rather fawning one on their founder E. J. H. Nash, and a sparser and rather controversy-heavy one on their parent body the Titus Trust. I've tried to balance both and fill in the gaps in the new article, but more eyes would be very much welcomed. TSP (talk) 12:24, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Crusading movement

Crusading movement has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Borsoka (talk) 11:28, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

George the Hungarian moved to draft

Another artist created an article on George the Hungarian (an Orthodox saint), which has been moved to Draft:George the Hungarian. Anyone who can add references from reliable sources and resubmit the article is welcome to do so. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 21:37, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Capital punishment#Requested move 1 April 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Capital punishment#Requested move 1 April 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. RodRabelo7 (talk) 01:58, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

Religion at the Fringe Theories Noticeboard

There is currently a discussion concerning the question of religion and whether or not it is an appropriate subject for the Fringe Theories Noticeboard. Experienced editors are encouraged to join the conversation. -Ad Orientem (talk) 19:50, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

"Pronomian" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Pronomian to the article antinomianism has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 April 15 § Pronomian until a consensus is reached. Bwrs (talk) 23:25, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

"Pronomianism" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Pronomianism to the article antinomianism has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 April 15 § Pronomian until a consensus is reached. Bwrs (talk) 23:25, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Church/Cathedral articles with potentially unnecessary disambiguation

Is there any reason that any of the following can not be moved to their currently redlinked base page titles? Cheers! BD2412 T 02:23, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

• Catedral Santiago Apóstol → Catedral Santiago Apóstol (Fajardo, Puerto Rico)
• Cathedral Basilica of St. James → Cathedral Basilica of St. James (Brooklyn)
• Cathedral Church of St. James → Cathedral Church of St. James (Toronto)
• Cathedral of Mary of the Assumption → Cathedral of Mary of the Assumption (Saginaw, Michigan)
• Cathedral of Our Lady of Walsingham → Cathedral of Our Lady of Walsingham (Houston)
• Cathedral of the Holy Angels → Cathedral of the Holy Angels (Gary, Indiana)
• Cathedral of the Most Sacred Heart of Jesus → Cathedral of the Most Sacred Heart of Jesus (Knoxville, Tennessee)
• Catherine Called Birdy → Catherine Called Birdy (film)
• Catholic Church of Our Lady → Catholic Church of Our Lady (Aarhus)
• Christ's Church Cathedral → Christ's Church Cathedral (Hamilton, Ontario)
• Church of Prophet Elijah → Church of Prophet Elijah (Thessaloniki)
• Church of St. Mary of the Spring → Church of St. Mary of the Spring (Istanbul)
• Church of the Transfiguration, Episcopal → Church of the Transfiguration, Episcopal (Manhattan)
• City Methodist Church → City Methodist Church (Gary, Indiana)
• Conwal Parish Church → Conwal Parish Church (Church of Ireland)
• Episcopal Cathedral of Saint Philip → Episcopal Cathedral of Saint Philip (Atlanta)
• Evangelical Church of Egypt → Evangelical Church of Egypt (Synod of the Nile)
• Gillfield Baptist Church → Gillfield Baptist Church (Petersburg, Virginia)
• Holy Family Old Cathedral → Holy Family Old Cathedral (Anchorage, Alaska)
• Holy Name of Mary Pro-Cathedral → Holy Name of Mary Pro-Cathedral (Sault Ste. Marie, Michigan)
• Holy Rosary Parish Church → Holy Rosary Parish Church (Angeles City)
• Lutheran Church of the Ascension → Lutheran Church of the Ascension (Savannah, Georgia)
• New South Church → New South Church (Boston, Massachusetts)
• Nineteenth Street Baptist Church → Nineteenth Street Baptist Church (Washington, D.C.)
• North Strand Church → North Strand Church (Church of Ireland)
• Old Whaler's Church → Old Whaler's Church (Sag Harbor)
• Saint Andrews African Methodist Episcopal Church → Saint Andrews African Methodist Episcopal Church (Sacramento, California)
• Saint Francis de Sales Cathedral → Saint Francis de Sales Cathedral (Baker City, Oregon)
• St. Augustine's Episcopal Church → St. Augustine's Episcopal Church (Gary, Indiana)
• St. Augustine's Monastery → St. Augustine's Monastery (Erfurt)
• St. Benedict Cathedral → St. Benedict Cathedral (Evansville, Indiana)
• St. Benedict the Moor Church → St. Benedict the Moor Church (New York City)
• St. Columba Cathedral → St. Columba Cathedral (Youngstown, Ohio)
• St. Eugenia's Church → St. Eugenia's Church (Stockholm)
• St. John Cantius Church → St. John Cantius Church (Chicago)
• St. John's Wilmot Church → St. John's Wilmot Church (New Rochelle, New York)
• St. Joseph Co-Cathedral → St. Joseph Co-Cathedral (Thibodaux, Louisiana)
• St. Mary of Blachernae Church → St. Mary of Blachernae Church (Berat)
• St. Matthew's United Church → St. Matthew's United Church (Halifax, Nova Scotia)
• St. Mary, Our Lady of Mount Carmel Cathedral → St. Mary, Our Lady of Mount Carmel Cathedral (Gaylord, Michigan)
• St. Michael's Cathedral Basilica → St. Michael's Cathedral Basilica (Toronto)
• St. Monica Catholic Church → St. Monica Catholic Church (Santa Monica, California)
• St. Nicholas of Myra Church → St. Nicholas of Myra Church (Manhattan)
• St. Takla Haymanot's Church → St. Takla Haymanot's Church (Alexandria)
• St. Thomas's Anglican Church → St. Thomas's Anglican Church (Toronto)
• Ste. Marie Church → Ste. Marie Church (Manchester, New Hampshire)

Yes! I'm sure many of these are highly ambiguous, especially allowing for different languages and styles (Saint vs St. etc)! For example the Church of St. Mary of Blachernae was a very important historical church in Constantinople (not so much left now). As the article says, the Albanian St. Mary of Blachernae Church (Berat) was named after it. We have a disam page for Cathedral Basilica of St James the Apostle, which stupidly doesn't mention what is by far the most famous one - Santiago de Compostela Cathedral. That alone makes Catedral Santiago Apóstol, Catedral Santiago Apóstol, Cathedral Basilica of St. James also ambiguous. Please DON'T make any changes without careful research. Johnbod (talk) 02:42, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

@Johnbod: That's why I'm asking the question. BD2412 T 02:44, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Well, you have your answer. Johnbod (talk) 02:47, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

St Augustine's Abbey (disambiguation) is another long page, to which St. Augustine's Monastery should redirect. Most of these, outside North America at least, should be using "Saint" not the American "St.", & if you want something useful to do there's are lots of redirects & disam work needed. Johnbod (talk) 02:54, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

I agree that there should be more standardisation to "Saint" in the names of churches which don't have WP:STRONGTIES to a particular English-speaking country. It would also be helpful if the titles of disambiguation pages had "Saint" as the default, with the "St." and "St" variants redirecting there as a matter of course.

Regarding the base page titles in the list above, I think the following ones should redirect to disambiguation pages (not all of which may have the best titles at the moment):

• Catedral Santiago Apóstol and Cathedral Church of St. James – redirect to Cathedral of Saint James
• Cathedral Basilica of St. James – redirect to Cathedral Basilica of Saint James
• Cathedral of Mary of the Assumption – redirect to Cathedral of Saint Mary of the Assumption
• Cathedral of the Most Sacred Heart of Jesus – redirect to Sacred Heart Cathedral
• Catholic Church of Our Lady – redirect to Church of Our Lady
• Christ's Church Cathedral – possibly redirect to Christ Church Cathedral
• Holy Rosary Parish Church – redirect to Holy Rosary Church
• Saint Francis de Sales Cathedral – redirect to Cathedral of Saint Francis de Sales
• St. Benedict the Moor Church – redirect to Church of Saint Benedict the Moor
• St. John Cantius Church – possibly create a new Church of Saint John Cantius disambiguation page, as there are two of these with articles
• St. Mary, Our Lady of Mount Carmel Cathedral – redirect to Our Lady of Mount Carmel Cathedral
• St. Michael's Cathedral Basilica – possibly redirect to Cathedral of Saint Michael
• St. Monica Catholic Church – redirect to Saint Monica's Church
• St. Nicholas of Myra Church – redirect to Saint Nicholas Church
• St. Thomas's Anglican Church – possibly redirect to Saint Thomas Church
• Ste. Marie Church – possibly redirect to Saint Mary's Church

Ham II (talk) 06:57, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks - this all seems sensible. Johnbod (talk) 15:39, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

I would certainly encourage the creation of redirects to disambiguation pages wherever appropriate, so that these redlinks are not mistaken by other editors for unoccupied base page names to which disambiguated titles should be moved. BD2412 T 23:47, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Weaponization of antisemitism#Requested move 21 April 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Weaponization of antisemitism#Requested move 21 April 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. RodRabelo7 (talk) 02:05, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Category:Union Theological Seminary (New York City) has been nominated for discussion

Category:Union Theological Seminary (New York City) has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Graham (talk) 19:06, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Limitarianism (ethical)#Requested move 4 April 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Limitarianism (ethical)#Requested move 4 April 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 21:06, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Protestant Church in Germany#Requested move 25 May 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Protestant Church in Germany#Requested move 25 May 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 00:13, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Israel has an RfC on the topic: mention apartheid in the lead?

Talk:Israel has an RfC. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. M.Bitton (talk) 15:11, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Vital article Split of Christianity and Judaism needs help

Hello!
I started Split of Christianity and Judaism in February. It is more than a one-person job, and I haven't been able to contribute significantly to it in months. This is an important article, and I'd love to see it improved.
Thanks! Zanahary (talk) 02:05, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Russian Orthodoxy#Requested move 6 June 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Russian Orthodoxy#Requested move 6 June 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ASUKITE 22:37, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Madonna#Requested move 1 June 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Madonna#Requested move 1 June 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Dawid2009 (talk) 14:59, 10 June 2024 (UTC)