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Template:Types of crowns[edit]

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Module:See also[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. No opposition. Primefac (talk) 00:09, 29 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Module:Key people (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Deprecated, unused modules. Replaced by Module:Labelled list hatnote, thus no need to keep them around. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 19:57, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Weak delete. I created Module:Labelled list hatnote as a more generalist, centralized module for this pattern of hatnote template, but didn't get around to nominating modules for deletion as I implemented the replacing module in templates piecemeal. This seems like a no-brainer, but if someone's got a counterargument, then I'm open to their suggestions. {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 14:13, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Unused and deprecated. Keeping could cause confusion, in that an editor may think that the {{See also}} is implemented by Module:See also (same with {{Key people}}). Dreamy Jazz ^{talk | contribs} 12:12, 24 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox saint[edit]

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The result of the discussion was Do not merge -- this is clearly WP:SNOWing (non-admin closure) {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 18:03, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox Christian leader (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Infobox saint with Template:Infobox Christian leader.
Redundant to the Chiristian leader template, which covers sainthood. Redtigerxyz ^Talk 17:34, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose {{Infobox Christian leader}} covers people that hold/held high positions in a Christian church, most of whom were never made saints, e.g. the pope, bishops, cardinals, etc. {{Infobox saint}} covers people that are venerated as saints, most of whom did not hold high church positions. For those subjects that both held high positions and are saints, Infobox Christian leader can accommodate that without requiring embedding the other template. The two templates are really not very redundant, and each serves a purpose. Ergo Sum 18:53, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Several "saints" are actually Old Testament figures who would not qualify as Christian leaders, or Christians at all. We also have some New Testament figures like John the Baptist who were never Christian, but are still honored as saints by Christians. Plus "royal" saints from various historical eras. Constantine the Great is one of Christianity's major saints, but was never a leader of the Church. Nicholas II of Russia has been canonized by the Russian Orthodox Church, but was never either a Christian leader or a member of the Russian clergy. Dimadick (talk) 19:45, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I take it adding the missing tfd tags worked. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 19:56, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per above. Chicbyaccident (talk) 20:00, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Not all Christian leaders are canonized; not all saints are necessarily leaders. Mannanan51 (talk) 23:19, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per the above comments - saints who aren't Christian leaders then have no infobox to set themselves apart and those Christian leaders have no unique infobox for themselves too. The two need to be kept separate since it is more appropriate. These two are not redundant since each has its own reason for existing in the first place. Lord Sidious 82 (talk) 12:02, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per all the above. Nonsense. DBD 16:56, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose This suggestion is like saying numbers should be merged with the alphabet. St Paul the Hermit was never a leader of anybody. Numerous Christian leaders were condemned as hereticks.1.127.104.190 (talk) 15:02, 23 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Two distinct groups, each with an array of fields inappropriate to the other. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 20:42, 23 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per above. Dreamy Jazz ^{talk | contribs} 12:03, 24 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Not all saints were/are Christian leaders, not all Christian leaders are saints. Wayne Jayes (talk) 16:50, 24 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Strongly Oppose per the statements above. Figfires^{Send me a message!} 11:49, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - I think Mannanan51's comment above sums it up, the two terms are not overlapping and thus there is no need to merge these two categories. Inter&anthro (talk) 13:17, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Not all Christian leaders are canonized; not all saints are necessarily leaders. L293D (☎ • ✎) 15:44, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:States of Nazi Germany[edit]

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Template:Hungarian Golden Ball[edit]

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