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May 28

how to check submission status

Hi there,

I submitted a page a few weeks ago, just wondering how I can find a link to show the draft, or the status of the publishing of this page. Thank you. Loriann.simpson (talk) 01:40, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

@Loriann.simpson: If you did, it wasn't on this account, as this is your only edit made. Were you perhaps logged out when writing your draft? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:44, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

@Loriann.simpson: If you may still have the same IP address then try logging out and clicking Special:MyContributions. Some Internet connections frequenlty change IP address. If you say what it was about then we can try to search for it. New users sometimes miss a step and never save their work so it may be lost. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:34, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Create an article

how do i create a wikipedia article Andrewcliftonpayne (talk) 11:49, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

@Andrewcliftonpayne Welcome to the help desk. I should warn you that creating an acceptable article is very difficult, but you first need to read Help:Your first article. Shantavira|^{feed me} 12:52, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Andrewcliftonpayne. To add to what Shantaviraj has said: in my experience, editors who try to create an article before they have spent (at least) several weeks learning how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles, generally have a frustrating and miserable experience.

Once you have understood core principles like verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable sources, and notability, then is the time when you can read YFA and try it: or not. Creating articles is not the only, or necessarily the best, way to help improve Wikipedia. ColinFine (talk) 15:28, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Check it please Hoy Maharaja

Is it prefect to Draft to Public or Not. I think enough sources for a movie. Rinuverse (talk) 14:25, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

@Rinuverse The Times of India is generally regarded as an unreliable source for entertainment-related articles. @Hardikgogoi I don't think this was quite ready for Mainspace, so how come you re-created it out of the Draft into Main? Qcne (talk) 14:37, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

which is reliable source for entertainment? Rinuverse (talk) 14:39, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

There are many; it's easier to specify which are not on a case-by-case basis: see WP:Verifiability and Wikipedia:Deprecated sources. A specific publication may be reliable for some matters and unreliable for others, and often the matter hinges on precisely what fact one is trying to verify. There is no simple answer. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.1095} 94.2.67.173 (talk) 00:19, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

@Rinuverse: In addition to what's been posted above, you uploaded as c:File:Hoy Maharaja.jpg to Wikimedia Commons as your "own work". What is your basis for making such a claim? Are you somehow associated with the Cinépolis, the company that distributed the film? Only the orginal copyright holder of the poster can claim it to be their "own work" as explained in c:COM:Own work. If you're not the original copyright holder, you can't upload the file to Commons without copyright holder consent. If you weren't aware of any of this and just made a mistake, then that's OK; the file, however, can't be kept by Commons. If you just made a mistake, you should go to the file's page on Commons, click on "Edit" at the top of the page, add the syntax {{SD|G7}] to the top of the editing window, click on "Show preview" and then click on "Publish changes" if everything looks OK. This will tag the file for speedy deletion per c:COM:CSD#G7. If you don't do this or wait too long to do this, the file will most likely be tagged as a copyright violation by someone else and deleted from Commons. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:27, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Jimmy Wales

Jimmy Wales was born on August 7, 1966 or on August 8, 1966? The source reported in the page about him https://www.oregonlive.com/siliconforest/2007/07/on_wikipedia_and_its_founders.html says that ""I am 40," Wales replied, adding that the date cited for his birthday on his Wikipedia biography -- Aug. 7, 1966 -- is incorrect". The date of his birth is uncertain. Can you provide some sources on this matter? 2A02:B025:F03:FFA1:1668:F38B:5C4F:DF93 (talk) 18:59, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Jimmy Wales is the proper place to discuss this. You can also ask him directly at User talk: Jimbo Wales. Cullen328 (talk) 19:17, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

@Cullen328 Many thanks for your answer. I ask him this question. 2A02:B025:F03:FFA1:1668:F38B:5C4F:DF93 (talk) 19:21, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

@Cullen328 but only autoconfirmed users can edit the page. I can't ask him this question. 2A02:B025:F03:FFA1:1668:F38B:5C4F:DF93 (talk) 19:28, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Try Talk:Jimmy Wales then. Or register an account, make ten edits in four days, and then you can ask directly. Cullen328 (talk) 19:37, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Be aware also that it is entirely possible for Mr Wales to have been born on 8 August UTC (aka Greenwich Mean Time), which this global encyclopedia often uses by default, but 7 August local (Huntsville, Alabama) time, which lags UTC by 6 hours.

The Wikipedia article about him specifically mentions the 7/8th discrepancy in its Section 1: if there were any definitive Reliable source to settle the matter, it would have been used by now. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.2.67.173 (talk) 00:32, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

I guess in this particular case, a statement by Jimbo on his usertalk could qualify as a WP:ABOUTSELF source. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:24, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Kirkheaton, Northumberland

I would like to suggest that the information about the Manor House in Kirkheaton should also refer to the following internet search result. Kirkheaton Manor House (The Gatehouse Record) (gatehouse-gazetteer.info)-see below. This would suggest that the Manor house is NOT a Pele Tower but a Bastle. https://gatehouse-gazetteer.info/English%20sites/2450.html Would it be possible for someone more capable than myself to amend the information please ? GardeningDave (talk) 19:24, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Hello, and welcome to the Teahouse. Please raise this question on Talk:Kirkheaton, Northumberland. It is not clear to me whether Gatehouse Gazeteer is what Wikipedia would count as a reliable source - is there editorial control over it, and if so, who by? You can ask for people's judgement on the matter at WP:RSN. ColinFine (talk) 21:07, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

@GardeningDave: If you bring this up on Kirkheaton's talk page, you might mention that Grade II* listed buildings in Northumberland characterizes the building as a bastle house. Deor (talk) 23:05, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks Deor, I'll do that. 2.28.251.120 (talk) 17:11, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Editing Deleted

Hello, I was editing The Try Guys page as they recently announced a new cast. I was editing the "Cast" section to include the new cast members with brief bios of each. All of my work was deleted as "not constructive" even though I was pulling the information for the bios from The Try Guys website and other legitimate sources. I was also providing links and citations as I went. I am not sure how this could have been viewed as "not constructive" Citsymtserof (talk) 20:52, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Citsymtserof. Disagreements between editors are a normal part of collaboration in Wikipedia: if you want to pursue this, your recommended course of action is to open a discussion with the editor who reverted you on the article's talk page Talk:The Try Guys. (Make sure you ping the editor, so that they know you've raised the issue). See WP:BRD for how this works.

My guess is that the other editor thought that you were putting too much detail in - we don't normally put extended bios of people in an article about something they were involved in. I may be wrong though. ColinFine (talk) 21:17, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Founding of the Volkswagen company

I try to post 1 interesting fact or ideal or something Dailey most of the public doesn't know. Today I tried about Volkswagen and FB wouldn't let me. Said content owned by someone else. Why? Don't usually have trouble. " IJamie Sheryl (talk) 20:58, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

@IJamie Sheryl: This is the encyclopedia Wikipedia and the above is the only edit by your account. The article Volkswagen hasn't been edited in a week. If you refer to a Wikipedia page then please link it. If FB means Facebook and you refer to Facebook page then we are not affiliated with them. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:19, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Are you talking about Wikipedia, or about Facebook? If Wikipedia, please clarify which article you tried to edit, and what account you were using (this account has only this edit).

If you are not talking about Wikipedia, then we can't help: this is the help desk for Wikipedia, not for anything else. ColinFine (talk) 21:20, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

May 29

LaTex not rendering when using MS-Edge. Local or global?

I've noticed this happens in MSEdge on and off, and there does not appear to be a pattern or obvious (to me anyway) reason. For example, on the page

https://en.luquay.com/wiki/Relativistic_particle

equation (1) appears as

$ E^{2}=(p{\textrm {c}})^{2}+\left(m_{0}{\textrm {c}}^{2}\right)^{2}\, $

I tried different "tricks" in the editor, but nothing appears to work. Chrome and Firefox do not have this problem (this is probably also true for other html readers, but have not checked.

I would like to know if anyone else experiences this, or is it some problem I have locally? thanks Joe wiki eds (talk) 00:16, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

@Joe wiki eds: It renders without problems for me using legacy vector skin and Edge browser on Windows 10. RudolfRed (talk) 01:25, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

It works for me. Is SVG selected under "Math" at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering? PrimeHunter (talk) 02:11, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks RudolfRed.

I had "LaTeX source (for text browsers)" selected under math instead of "SVG".

Cheers! Joe wiki eds (talk) 06:47, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

How can I get my accounts back

take back what is rightfully mine Retodo471 (talk) 03:33, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

@Retodo471 If your account has been compromised, instructions are at Compromised accounts. You are unlikely to regain access to your account. Toadspike [Talk] 12:02, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

How can I stop my personal information from being sold on the dark web

leaked data Retodo471 (talk) 03:36, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi Retodo471, this help desk is for questions about using or editing Wikipedia, and isn't a general Q&A board. Are you referring to a Wikipedia account? If so, could you provide the name of the account? If this is not about Wikipedia, you would likely be better helped by searching the internet or asking these questions on a website designed for Q&A. Tollens (talk) 03:40, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Retodo471, I read here that you are: a developer product testing and feedback marketing research working with area 51 and fortknox [sic] top secret navel [sic] base and the CIA and FBI and local law enforcement along with my advertising ID. With that level and variety of expertise, and those security clearances, I'm confident that you'll be able to retrieve your accounts yourself. -- Hoary (talk) 07:02, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Edit Dutch pages

Hi, I have an account on en.wiki.. and am trying to turn it into a global account so I can edit nl.wiki.. pages because I am a native Dutch speaker and writer. It does not seem to work.. what should I do in.order to be able to edit nl.wiki pages?

Thanks, Koen Kmlinders (talk) 09:47, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

According to a comment here, you may need to disable any browser option which says "Block third party cookies". Another suggestion I have seen is to explicitly log out (that is a link which, for me, appears at the top, right of any page). Then log in again. If that doesn't help and there is no better advice here, ask again at WP:VPT. Johnuniq (talk) 10:05, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

You could try going to nl-Wiki and logging in there. Mjroots (talk) 17:59, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Referring to a young person who's the subject of an article ...

I'm editing an article on the young soon-to-be-canonized saint Carlo Acutis. He was only a teenager when he died. Throughout the article, he is referred to as Acutis. Somehow it seems to me that because of his youth, it would be more natural to refer to him as Carlo instead and I'd like to make that change article-wide.

What guidance is there on this sort of thing in Wikipedia? Augnablik (talk) 10:59, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Augnablik the manual of style guidance is at MOS:SURNAME. TSventon (talk) 11:17, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, @TSventon, for such a quick resolution! Apparently even children are referred to by surname unless members of the same family are also involved in the same discussion. I wouldn't have expected that. Augnablik (talk) 11:26, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Augnablik if you are interested in the reasons for the current guidance you could search for "children" in the talk page archives. The issue was discussed here in 2017. TSventon (talk) 11:35, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Put in more information in the "Paul Wesley" article under personal life

Hello,

I would like for your editors to put in this information in the personal life section with Paul Wesley:

"Wesley has been in a relationship with the Brazilian/German model Natalie Kuckenburg since 2023, February."

//Lazar B SaintHeihachi (talk) 11:02, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

@SaintHeihachi: Do you have a reliable source for that? That is also something you should be putting at Talk:Paul Wesley. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 12:26, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

have editor proofread and approve edits

Hello. I have been editing information for Gerard Karam. I have made edits, such as changed Arts to Science, in Education. Also added more details in bio. They revert back to original. Received email to ask editor to approve edits. When editing, don't see how to do that. PALEGALSECGMK (talk) 13:31, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Gerard Karam

The edits were reverted because the additions were not supported by inline sources. Even if what you have added is true, we can't include it on Wikipedia unless other people (readers and editors) can verify the information with published sources. Reconrabbit 13:53, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Uploading new logo

Dear Wikipedia,

I am trying to upload another logo to the Armada Music Wikipedia page because it still has the old logo right now. They have changed their logo for a couple of years now, so I want to fix that. Now that I am trying to upload the logo Wikipedia says it's copyrighted. How am I able to upload the new logo to Wikipedia if I don't have the copyright, because now the information on the page is wrong? Madstew (talk) 13:49, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Logos are one of the cases when non-free images are frequently used in articles. Please see WP:LOGO for how to do it.

Far more significant than the logo is the poor quality of the sourcing: I'm not sure that even one of the sources meets the triple requirement of being reliable, independent, and containing significant coverage of the subject. Without several such sources, the label will not meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability. ColinFine (talk) 14:53, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

@Madstew If a logo is simple enough, it could be below the threshold of originality, which means it is in the public domain and cannot be copyrighted. You would then need to choose the corresponding license option when uploading the image here or at Wikimedia Commons. Toadspike [Talk] 12:10, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Noel Ashman bio removed

Hi - I am trying to get Noel Ashman's page "unsalted" - apparently it was removed/taken down, after some contributors had added false information to it. Would you please direct me to what I need to do to return his previous page that can be added back to wikipedia. Ashmanassistant (talk) 13:51, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

The biography wasn't deleted because of 'false information'. It has however been deleted, repeatedly, because evidence that Ashman meets our notability guideline has not been provided: see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Noel Ashman, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Noel Ashman (2nd nomination) and Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Noel_Ashman_(3rd_nomination). Unsalting will require evidence that the guideline can if fact be met, through significant in-depth coverage in published reliable sources. I suggest you start by finding them, and linking them here. And please note that if you are indeed Ashman's assistant, you will be required to conform to the Wikipedia:Conflict of interest guidelines. AndyTheGrump (talk) 14:03, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Nakba

good afternoon.

With relation to the'Nakba' how can someone call it Ethnic Cleansing when the Arab league attacked Israel? This is misinformation and should be changed for legal reasons to prevent more racial hatred. We need to state facts correctly. 1 million jews ethnically cleansed from Morocco to Iran is a correct statement, The Christian population of Lebanon being massacred is ethnic cleansing, 1 million Greeks displaced from Turkey in 1923 is ethnic cleansing. Andy bandy24 (talk) 14:21, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

The Nakba article is about an attack on Palestinians (presumably Muslims), not an attack on Israel. Multiple reliable sources refer to the displacement of Palestinians as ethnic cleansing, and this is discussed in the article. If you want to discuss improvements to the the Nakba article, it's best to do it on the talk page Talk:Nakba. ~Anachronist (talk) 15:48, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Hello,

Yes, but this information is completely false. Where is the supporting evidence? and if it’s ethnic cleansing why did all the Jews get displaced from all the Arab states? It’s only a mater of time before someone spreading this misinformation will be held accountable. 2A00:23C6:8092:BA01:E460:7754:40AA:DBF8 (talk) 17:07, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Supporting evidences are cited on the article's reference section. If you wish to argue otherwise, please provide reliable sources on the topic to support your claim. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 19:17, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Users have to be extended-confirmed to discuss this topic on any page per the current contentious topics procedures. @Andy bandy24 and the IP editor here do not meet this criteria. Reconrabbit 17:08, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Accidentally removed a talk page

In trying to request a move for [[The Mall Luton]] I ended up accidentally remove the whole talk page's history *facepalm*. If someone could help by restoring it. Editing anything other than page text is a bit out of my comfort zone so apologies Bobster1001 (talk) 14:54, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

I see you made multiple edits. Which one should I undo? Sage or something (talk) 15:03, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

The only net change[1] to Talk:The Mall Luton is the addition of a RM section. You did no damage. And I left a comment there. ~Anachronist (talk) 15:41, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Colonel Boglin

My father Colonel William N Boglin was one of a few Africa American Colonels of his time, he was the hospital administrator and director of medical education at Wilford Hall along with General Chong, he was also under the same Generals command at Malcom Grow. Which my father servers as hospital administrator. Why is there information on General Chong but nothing on my father who paved the way for many officers in the Air Force! 2603:8081:6107:5D84:A9B5:679B:B7B:3F81 (talk) 20:48, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Hello. The answer to the question "Why isn't there a Wikipedia article on X?" is generally one or both of "Because nobody has written it yet" and "Because X does not currently meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability".

"Notable" in Wikipedia's sense, does not mean important, or famous, or popular, or innovatory, or influential, or anything like that, though it sometimes goes with these: it means, roughly, "there is enough information about the X published in reliable, independent sources, to base an article on".

So the question comes down to, did your father get written about (and not just rountine mentions about his career and appointments) in books, newspapers, magazines, unconnected with him and his associates? If the answer is yes, then it is possible there could be an article about him; otherwise, there cannot be an article, no matter how ground-breaking he was.

Getting an article written on a particular subject can be a challenge, unless you manage to inspire somebody to create it. You can requst an article at Requested articles, but in all honesty, few requests there actually get taken up. You might find somebody interested if you post at WT:WikiProject Military history, but there are no guarantees. (If you do some research yourself, and find some of the sources of the kind I mentioned above, that may make the project more attractive to somebody.)

Finally, you are allowed to try and create an article yourself. This is not recommended because of your conflict of interest, and it may make a challenging task even harder. I always advise new editors not to even try creating an article until they have several hundred edits and several weeks of editing under their belt, and have learnt about key policies such as verifiability, reliable sources, neutral point of view, and notability. Then they can read your first article, and give it a go. ColinFine (talk) 21:09, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

I'm getting no significant hits for Colonel William Boglin, and the only William Boglin I'm seeing is an arsonist, so the notability just isn't there. Clarityfiend (talk) 08:58, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

please remind me how to remove a redirect

I believe I have done this before but am blanking on the procedure. Do I just blank the page or do I need to add a template, or?

Specifically, I added an interlanguage link from Michael Servetus#Imprisonment and execution to fr:Guillaume de Trie, who denounced him to the Inquisition as a heretic. The redirect of Guillaume de Trie to Roman Catholic Diocese of Bayeux and Lisieux is counterproductive and impairs readability. Also, while he was in fact Bishop of Bayeux at one point, this is not the most notable thing about him. He was subsequently Archbishop of Reims and tutor to Philippe VI of France, the first Valois. That is why I would change this.

Could someone please advise when they have a minute? I could of course hard code the link with the colon syntax, but this doesn't flag the term as a needed article and is not the preferred solution here. Thanks. Elinruby (talk) 23:40, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Elinruby, you can use the Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion process. TSventon (talk) 23:49, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

May 30

artist page

i am a music artist and producer and how do i create a wiki artist page? Dj Brisk (talk) 03:11, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

You don't. There are fewer ventures more doomed to failure than trying to create an article in Wikipedia (there is no such thing as "a wiki artist page") about yourself. --Orange Mike | Talk 04:49, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Page previews not showing up

Hello,

I am experiencing a technical problem in the Reading Preferences; I enabled the Wikipedia:Tools/Navigation popups feature on the "Gadgets" to test it, but after I disabled the feature (as for me it wasn't better than the "page preview" option) & re-enabled/checked the page preview option, it's still not giving me previews of any articles.

There's a line beneath the "Enable page previews" that says "If you experience problems please review your gadgets (which I already did) and user scripts, including global ones" ; here I am having some difficulties about understanding what does it mean, and if that's (the "user scripts") has got the problem or not.

I would really appreciate if someone help me out. Thank you! ERA (talk) 06:52, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

@Anggona Era: https://en.luquay.com/wiki/Example?safemode=1 disables gadgets and userscripts so if the problem occurs there then they are not the cause. See Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Page previews not working for tips which didn't work for another user but might for you. First look for "Edit preview settings". PrimeHunter (talk) 09:52, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Update to legislation

The legislation for Parish councils UK is out of date Wrac (talk) 14:11, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Your question is unclear. If you wish to suggest a specific improvement to a specific article, the place to do so is the talk page of that article. Remember to cite a reliable source for your assertion. Shantavira|^{feed me} 14:23, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

I need help submitting a wiki page

I am trying to create a page for Dr. Karida Brown but I have been denied, can someone assist with this? BIGDAWGRJ (talk) 15:35, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Your submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources Shantavira|^{feed me} 15:39, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your response ‪Shantavira‬. Do you know of any companies or individuals that I assist with this? BIGDAWGRJ (talk) 15:42, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

@BIGDAWGRJ: Beware of scammers. Disreptuable companies and individuals offer this service but cannot actual guarantee that an article will remain on Wikipedia. See WP:SCAM. -Arch dude (talk) 15:56, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

@Arch dude@Shantavira could I pay you to help with this task? I am in desperate need of help. BIGDAWGRJ (talk) 16:33, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

BIGDAWGRJ Wikipedia has no deadlines; what is the source of your desperation? Please do not offer to pay other editors here. 331dot (talk) 16:35, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

You must want this article to be created really badly. But in the end it comes down to whether the article meets the general notability guideline, and you would not have full control over the article once it was created, as other people could edit it within Wikipedia guidelines.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 16:38, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

I do, ive been following Dr. Karida Brown for sometime now and she is well overdue for a page so many others like myself can educate themselves about her work. BIGDAWGRJ (talk) 16:45, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

It sounds like you've done pretty well doing that without a Wikipedia article abour her. 331dot (talk) 20:02, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

@331dot I am trying to create a page for Dr. Karida Brown but the page is not accepted. I added citations from credible sources but no approval.

Thank you for the heads up! BIGDAWGRJ (talk) 16:43, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

The obvious question here is WP:BOSS. Have you been asked to do this?--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 17:39, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

@Ianmacm I have not been asked to this but this is a project I am working on to make her researchable BIGDAWGRJ (talk) 22:13, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

BIGDAWGRJ Please see your user talk page. Your self made claim of desperation suggests you are more than a mere interested person. 331dot (talk) 20:01, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

@331dot you are correct. I am the project manager for her husband Charly Palmer and as a gift to her he wants to create a wikipedia page for her before her new book releases October 2024. BIGDAWGRJ (talk) 22:15, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

BIGDAWGRJ You should have said this from the beginning. You must formally declare this, see your user talk page for instructions. Wikipedia is not concerned with outside events and will not accommodate your schedule. Wikipedia articles are not gifts or ways of honoring someone. 331dot (talk) 22:33, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

I quote the first version of this draft:

Karida L. Brown (born August 9th, 1982) is an American sociologist, author, professor, and public intellectual who serves as Professor of Sociology at Emory University. She served as the inaugural Director of Racial Equity & Action at the Los Angeles Lakers from 2020 to 2022. She is recognized for her scholarship on Black history and culture. Her research also examines the history and function of racial colonial capitalism. She has published widely on a broad array of topics, migration, education, collective memory, and social theory.

It looks familiar, somehow.

Karida L. Brown (born August 9^th, 1982) is an American sociologist, author, professor, and public intellectual who serves as Professor of Sociology at Emory University and Director of Racial Equity & Action at the Los Angeles Lakers. She is recognized for her work writing back into history the lives, stories, and experiences of Black people worldwide. Her research also focuses on the history and functions of systemic racism. She has published widely on a broad array of topics, including migration, education, collective memory, and social theory.

That's from Wipekah's (subsequently deleted) user page.

BIGDAWGRJ, are you Wipekah? Or what's going on here? -- Hoary (talk) 21:51, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

@Hoary Im not Wipekah or do I know what that is. Im just a guy who is trying to create a Wikipedia Page for my employer wife for a surprise towards her new book. Im just looking help to get her page approved.

When I first attempted to create a document for Karida Brown I accidentally replaced someone else's Wiki Page hence the deleted page. This is my first time creating a page on Wikipedia and just looking for assistance BIGDAWGRJ (talk) 22:19, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Yes, BIGDAWGRJ, this edit of yours was most unfortunate. But it seems to have been an honest mistake. If you're unacquainted with Wipekah, then how come your draft and Wipekah's are so uncannily similar? -- Hoary (talk) 23:29, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

I would also point out that a Wikipedia article about someone isn't necessarily a good thing and might not in the long run be appreciated. Shantavira|^{feed me} 08:36, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Excessive use of the quote parameter in Cite web on Women's Elite Rugby

A new article was created at Women's Elite Rugby with all of the references/citations using the quote parameter in the citations, along side this the Harvard citation no brackets was also used. I went through the article removing the quote parameters (as almost all articles don't use them and in my opinion they were excessive) In doing this I also removed the Harvard citation no brackets and replaced them with {{Cite web}} for consistency. My original reasoning was "Remove quote parameter from citations to reduce redundancy and keep the references concise" and "improve sourcing/citations" the article creator questioned me and i mentioned my reasoning but would just like to make sure I have done nothing wrong. I also would like clarification on the use of the quote parameter. SimplyLouis27 (talk) 23:30, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

There is such a thing as WP:CITEVAR, which see. That being said, I think that quotations should be only be used when the wikitext is controversial and the source is protected by a paywall. In general, heavy reliance on quotations suggests that editors have not given enough thought to summarizing their sources. When quotations are necessary to the understanding of the article topic, those (few) quotations should be made part of the article body and properly cited. Quotations require citations; citations do not require quotations.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 23:50, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Noted, thank you. I have let the other editor know about this response. SimplyLouis27 (talk) 00:05, 31 May 2024 (UTC)