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Mostly the IRC information is totally out of date. As I was looked on the history of the page, I saw that there has been few edits latly, thus concluded that the page is per fact unmaintained. →AzaToth18:47, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply. I have only used IRC a handful of times, so I'll bring this up at CVU talk. Best, Dar-Ape03:03, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
A little JS help
I was wondering if you could tell me how twinklespeedy.js retrieves the name of the first contributer to a page. I looked at the source code for it but because I don't really know anything about XML I couldn't figure out how it works. I would appreciate whatever hints you could give me.--Dycedargж00:45, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
Template:Db-autobio is just about to be deleted through this TfD and is deprecated in favor of db-bio. This script of yours is fairly widely used and gives an option for using db-autobio. I would update it myself except it is fully protected. Please update this script at your earliest convenience or else your users will end up inserting redlinks instead of CSD tags. —Dgiestc07:17, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
Where can I find the source of the template that runs the ACID history page? It's a strange template name, which makes it all the harder to find the source. Diez203:30, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Is there a way to make it so that if your going through a vandal's contributions page and reverting them all, the revert action automatically opens up in new tabs instead of having to right click each of the revert buttons? Also, why when Twinkle is set to open user talk's in new window, it opens it in a second window if a second one is already open. (ex. you revert two things of vandalism right after each other, but when you go to warn both user's after, only the first page shows in the new window because the first page is located in the back button of the browser. --TeckWizParlateContribs@17:50, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Like I said, it's already set to window. But if you revert two using right after each other without warning the first one in between, the second user talk will open up where the first user talk was, instead of in a 3rd window. --TeckWizParlateContribs@01:53, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Like it says, "window" will reuse the opened window, use "blank" for a new blank window for each. →AzaToth12:54, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
About the IRC channels, I can only fix some of them, as for the "cvu" channels, that needs to be one of the regular on those channels to change it, as it requires level 5 access to enter #cvu. →AzaToth17:56, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
I add the script but there is a wrong java script warning every time I try to use it? Did I do anything wrong? Please help. My monobook is here. Thanks. KGV09:09, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Nishkid64 would like to nominate you to be an administrator. Please visit Wikipedia:Requests for adminship to see what this process entails, and then contact Nishkid64 to accept or decline the nomination. A page has been created for your nomination at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/AzaToth 4. If you accept the nomination, you must formally state your acceptance and answer the questions on that page. Once you have answered the questions, you may post your nomination for discussion, or request that your nominator do so.
I know I was one of the opposers in your last RfA, but I think you have definitely made improvements and your work with the project has definitely won me over. If you feel that the time elapsed from your previous RfA might go against you in this RfA, by all means, decline the nomination, and I'll come back in a few weeks. But I honestly think that you are ready to go up right now. Most of the concerns in your previous RfA were about your answers to the questions, and I think you can easily fix up that issue. Hope you accept my nomination. I have successfully nominated a handful of other users to adminship (most of them passed almost unanimously). =) Nishkid6422:39, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Yea, why not... I don't think it can go worse than last time :) Though I'm a bit busy till Tuesday (exams etc...), so no hurry. →AzaToth13:23, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
I am writing to let you know that I would consider myself to have tested Twinkle sufficiently on Apple's Safari browser, and that it does not work. You may want to add "not compatible with Safari" to the heading on the Twinkle page, under item 2. Thanks for the tools, however, they work great on my home computer (where I'm using Firefox). Keep up the good work! –King Bee(τ • γ)15:34, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Some things work, like the "last" tab, and the "since mine" tab, but that's pretty much it. Clicking on "rollback" or "restore this version" and the like do absolutely nothing, and you already know about the [1], [2], [3], and [4] tabs having the width problem (you were notified of this a while ago, and I confirmed it with a proof using a screenshot). Safari is usually pretty good about being compliant, but something is just fishy here. I'll try updating a bunch of crap and then get back to you, see if that does anything, but I'm pretty sure all my stuff is up to date as it is. Thanks again. –King Bee(τ • γ)15:53, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
i am NOT seeing rollback functions on twinkle script
i am having a problem with twinkle. everything used to work out fine until today. now i am forced to use the non-admin undo revision function not the admin rollback. can u fix this problem? —Meteoroid02:17, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
I've added this to the WP:TWINKLE collection. Feel free to revert (it's your set of scripts after all), but I find this useful and I'm sure others would as well. – Steel02:18, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
Hey AzaToth, would you mind looking at my monobook quick and let me know what settings for TW will make so that User talk pages I tag aren't set to auto watch? Some days I tag a bunch and might forget to remove them, and every couple days I end up having to manually remove dozens of random IP talk pages or throwaway SPA vandal accounts... - Denny03:54, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Werdnabot Indexes
I noticed the other day that you added the Werdnabot index code to the template specified in the instructions here, and was wondering if that might be something better suited in a separate template that's documented in the Werdnabot Howto, rather than just being included by default whenever anyone requests Werdnabot's services. It seems that the feature has existed for a while (in some form or another), but I hadn't heard of it until somewhat recently, and it seems like having it on by default (and not really documented at all, as far as I can see) could cause problems if people want to use HBC Archive Indexerbot to index their archives - both bots might be trying to update the same page, if the user doesn't realize that Werdnabot is updating that page. I hope this doesn't come across as "bot envy" or "my bot's way is better", because there's certainly room for both bots to serve similar purposes, I'm just hoping to avoid confusion on both ends of the equation. I'd be interested to hear what you think on the issue when you have a chance. Thanks! —Krellis (Talk) 05:53, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
The problem with HBC Archive Indexerbot is that it can't handle the now default page format (Archive Month Year). →AzaToth12:22, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Default according to whom? WP:ARCHIVE still refers to archiving with sequentially numbered archives, and all of the other talk page information I just checked is either silent on the issue or points to that page. Regardless, I don't see that as the main issue - as I said, I think they both have valid and useful places - since use of Werdnabot is discouraged on article talk pages, HBC Archive Indexerbot would remain useful there even if Werdnabot indexed every user talk page it serves. My main point still stands, though - silently making it the default, without any type of documentation, is going to confuse people, and potentially cause problems. I really think it would be in everyone's best interests for it to be a documented option, rather than a default. —Krellis (Talk) 15:21, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Very nice. The image names are a bit misleading, now that you've made two of them... anyway, interesting ad. I'll add it to the template, and I guess I'd better change the credits to "Qxz/AzaToth", too. To be quite honest, I don't want my articles to look like *either* of those things :) – Qxz17:42, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
It seems that you nomination is becoming a bit overdue. Many users did not notice your RfA nom. Perhaps you should ask a bureaucrat to extend the overdue date of your RfA nom. Cheers. —Meteoroid»03:41, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Would it be possible for you to reply on your talk page instead of others talk page, it makes it rather difficult to follow discussions. →AzaToth16:45, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Hm, fair point. On the other hand, many people (myself included) prefer seeing the "new messages" bar the moment we get a reply, rather than checking our watchlists / the other person's talk page every five minutes looking for an answer. Tell you what, I'll reply in both places. More work for me, but less for you :) – Qxz17:19, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
HBC Archive Indexerbot
I've implemented your suggestion for dates of first/last comment in a topic for the HBC Archive Indexerbot, and you can see it in action in my archive index. The next item I plan to tackle from my TODO list is your other comment regarding the inability to handle month-named archives. At least initially, I think it will be an option that will cause the bot to simply search the links in the requesting page for links to subpages with "Archive" in the name, and index them. Trying to guess different month formats seems like it would not work very effectively, so that is the best solution I have come up with so far. Please feel free to let me know if you have any further comments or suggestions about the bot (I'll be watching this space for replies, or you can always get my attention on my talk). —Krellis (Talk) 17:03, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
It doesn't understand the "./pagename" syntax for relative links, so I've changed that to reflect the full path names (that's another feature on my to-do list). I'm not 100% sure it will work with your archives, even with just the one page, and leaving out the <#> from the mask, because of some parts of the code that aren't quite perfect. I'll give it a run and see what it does, but I can't promise it will work (yet - I definitely want to make it possible for you to use the bot with your archive style!) —Krellis (Talk) 19:32, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Okay, I've gotten it working for a single mask, now I'm adding individual masks for each archive I found with Special:Prefindex, so you can have a complete set indexed for now. —Krellis (Talk) 22:08, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi! I use TWINKLE a lot and love it, but I have noticed that it says "Opening talk page of user ..." while doing rollbacks, but I never actually see the talk page open. I am using Firefox 2.0.0.2 on Windows XP, and wondering if something with my setup is causing the problem. I have numerous addons, and I force popups to open in new tabs. I can let you know any other useful info about my setup if that will help. Thanks! -- Whereizben - Chat with me - My Contributions20:39, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Could you possibly make something up for WP:WPSPAM. We can always use new volenteers to help deal with spam and advertising links. Enjoy the irony, and thanks ;) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Eagle 101 (talk • contribs) 00:18, 14 March 2007 (UTC).
Hi! I apparently have so many scripts that add tabs that the [s] (single use) tab doesn't show unless I remove a script. Is there a way to make the tabs smaller? --TeckWizParlateContribs@01:41, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
You can probably resize the tabs by changing something in either your monobook.css or your monobook.js. I noticed in my experience with this problem that the default MediaWiki CSS doesn't give the tab bar full available width. You can see my monobook CSS for a tweak I made that seems to work most of the time (it works in Firefox for sure). It involves specifying that #p-cactions (the tab bar) should be at least so wide, in my case 855px (for a 1024x768 monitor). If you have a larger or (doubtfully) smaller monitor, you may want to increase or decrease this number when you add it to your monobook.css. I set it to a value that works on my primary computer, but this can take some experimentation to find if you don't have a way to measure the width of #p-cactions in your browser. If my tip isn't clear to you, feel free to respond below. Hope it helps you! — Tuvok[T@lk/Improve me] 02:19, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
The hack I use increases the length of the tab bar in my browser. I found that tabs were getting cut off because the tab bar doesn't actually span the whole width of the content column. As for actually making the tabs smaller, you might try setting a smaller font size in #p-cactions using the same file. Let me know if you need specific instructions. — Tuvok[T@lk/Improve me] 04:38, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Hmm, when I did my check, Vladimir had 37 votes, and where on the top of my list, now Churchill have 40 votes due my calculations. →AzaToth12:47, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Hmm... noticed some people at AIV seemed to be reporting non-existing usernames, earlier. Slowking discovered that the reports seemed to be omitting backslashes from usernames, and I noticed the reports were being generated by Twinkle. ;) Example username, for your reading pleasure. I haven't actually dug through the code enough to have any idea why this might be (and while the guess that it's Twinkle seems to make sense, it is still just a guess). But, there you go. I think this is the second or third time I've pestered you about something to this effect, if there's a place you'd rather have possible bugs reported, let me know. :) – Luna Santin (talk)07:48, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
I have a question, are you ever going to create a version of twinkle that works with Internet Explorer? I used Firefox briefly a few minutes ago to try twinkle, but I don't like using that browser. I have removed twinkle from from monobook. Will you ever make a version of twinkle, or something similar, to work with IE? I'm not criticizing twinkle, it was great when I used it briefly, but I like to use IE and not Firefox. Acalamari22:48, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Ah...okay. Sorry. Funny thing is, I can't use any of the vandal tools actually; I have to use the good old' "go into the history and select a previous version" method; none of the tools seem to work with IE; they all only work with Firefox or the other browsers. My monobook is empty. Acalamari23:11, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Can you add a "blatantvandal" button? It would be a handy one to have; that template is a nice compromise between level-1 and level-4 for new users who are being disruptive off the bat while assuming good faith. I love the program by the way. It's like TiVo for Wikipedia. -- TedFrank03:36, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
What do you propose I change it to? I have light cyan as my user talk page background. I didn't think that'd be a problem. Nishkid6420:43, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
Can twinkle warn be updated. There are a few new single use templates, and the uw-legal series has now been made into a single use, so it has to be taken out of the number tabs. --TeckWizParlateContribs@19:22, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks! However, there's one mistake. Clicking the blatant vandalism button generates the template uw-3bw , instead of uw-bv. I also think you forgot uw-pinfo. Thanks!--TeckWizParlateContribs@02:43, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
I have added the relevant code to my monobook (and purged the cache). No instructions appeared. Can you confirm this is because it won't work on the above platform? Thanks. Ben MacDui(Talk)17:01, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
It seem forst that you have copied the morebits.js code directly into you monobook,js, that version might be old, and might interfere with the linked one. Check so that your config are correct (see WP:TW) →AzaToth23:03, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Test copying the default config (I see you are using an old one). Change the settings you want to change, and test. If it works, please try to remove one of each non-changed settings, to see which one doesn't work properly. →AzaToth01:35, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
I guess it's the edit summaries and the ip warning because they all seem to work. I tried to get rid of the rollback features (I don't need it anymore) and it still show up in diffs. John Reaves(talk)08:30, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
I adore Twinkle, but I find find it rather bothersome that for each bit of vandalism that I revert, the page is watched. I'm pretty much illiterate when it comes to scripts, so is there any way to change my settings in order to not automatically watch pages that I revert with TW? Thanks, -- Cielomobiletalk / contribs05:26, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Hello, AzaToth! Thank you for reverting vandalism to Wikipedia, as you did in Life. After you revert, I would recommend also warning the users whose edits you revert on their talk pages with an appropriate template or custom message. This will serve to direct new users towards the sandbox, educate them about Wikipedia, and a stern warning to a vandal may prevent him or her from vandalizing again. Thanks! zero»00:21, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Hello, AzaToth, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for inventing conditional templates and providing the most advanced anti-vandal script yet. After you do so, I would recommend also warning everyone you know that you are imminently about to become an administrator and they should watch their backs, with an appropriate template or custom message. This will serve to get you respect and have people on your side when you get involved in drama, and a stern warning to a user may prevent him or her from blocking you during a wheel war. Thanks! – Qxz00:35, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm hoping this is something straightforward (i.e. something obvious I'm overlooking), but I don't seem able to set the width of the first column in this infobox (the column carrying the hyphens) so that it's any narrower than at present. Your advice much appreciated. Thanks, David Kernow(talk)17:13, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Yes... it was a bit cryptic; apologies! If you scan through User:David Kernow/Test template's code, you'll see a number of <td> - </td> entries; these create the hyphens at the starts of lines in the infobox (e.g. in the Government, Area, Population etc sections; see the examples at User:David Kernow/Test page#Infobox Country or territory). I haven't worked out how to reduce the gap between each hyphen and the text following it, i.e. to reduce the width of the column in which these hyphens are placed. Since there's nothing wider than - in this column, I'd hoped this would become the width of the column – but instead it looks about twice as wide. I've tried specifying a width (<td width="...">) in px, ex and %, but nothing seems to change. Is there something I'm overlooking...? Yours, David(talk)19:03, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
The question I ask you is if there need to be an column for the hyphens? why not just put them in the same td as the title? →AzaToth19:21, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
To control wraparound; cf, for example, the entries in the Establishment section of the test Iran infobox... I think, though, I've realized the cause: the padding: 0.4em 0.6em 0.4em 0.6em; entry for cells in the "infobox geography" style here; do you agree...? David(talk)21:23, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
This TWINKLE edit correctly identified the preceding edit as vandalism, but instead of simply reverting, it went back to a much older version, re-introducing the typo "Americal" for instance. I reverted both the vandalism and the malfunctioning TWINKLE reversion. Art LaPella00:40, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Just two hours until your RfA has successfully closed. Gratz on WP:100. =) I wish you best of luck as an admin, and if you ever need any help, you know where to reach me. :-P Nishkid6420:02, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
And if you'll allow me, I'll be the first with on time congratulations. :) Use the new tools for good, not evil, and spend some time on the reading list. The community has placed their confidence in you and I'm sure you'll do well. Don't hesitate to ask if you're unsure. Have fun and again, congrats. - TaxmanTalk21:51, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Way to go! I would have supported you, but I did not know you were running. Of course if you told me people would accuse you of canvasing hehe. Drop by my talk page or e-mail me if you need any advice. HighInBC(Need help? Ask me)22:01, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Yup, that went very well. Good luck with your new tools, and as per Nishkid64, Taxman and HighInBC, if you ever need some help, don't hesitate to ask :) Majorly(o rly?)22:03, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Has been reverted. Cheers, -- Darkest Hour 21:40, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
RfA and TWINKLE
First off, belated congrats to your successful RfA. And I wanted to thank you for TWINKLE, after some unjustified early scepticism (seems like everyone is using it), I finally installed it thanks to Will. —KNcyu38 (talk • contribs) 00:45, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
One minor concern, though. Since I activated Twinkle, internal links are never updated. They don't get violet upon klick, and links to newly created talk page stay red. —KNcyu38 (talk • contribs) 09:44, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
That's strange, perhaps it's just a caching problem, twinkle shouldn't interfere with the history. →AzaToth16:36, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
Just a quick one to ask whether you have removed the function which opens an editor's user page in a new window after reverting vandalism or not- i'm having problems with this and rather than sit and tear apart my browser i thought it'd be sensible to check with you first. Cheers, Jonomacdrones (talk) 13:20, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
I have not removed that functionallity. Check if you have popup blocking blocking the new window. →AzaToth16:35, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
oddly enough its working now, i can't even explain it since my popup blocker wasn't on (unless it turned itself on then off). ah well, thanks anyway mate. Cheers, Jonomacdrones (talk) 18:14, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
Ooh, pretty coloured padlocks
Green = semiprotect, pink = move protect, brown = full protect amirite? I'm just glad to see {{pp-semi-template}} in there, there's a gap in the current scheme and templates have to use {{sprotected}} or {{sprotected2}}, which is less than satisfactory. One suggestion, use a <span class="plainlinks"> for the protection log link, it links to an internal page after all, and it looks nicer that way. Thanks – Qxz13:52, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
Could you please fix twinkle's warnings and add the following sentence so that it displays the reverted link (i.e. A link to the edit I have reverted can be found here. If you believe this edit should not have been reverted, please contact me.) — zero»22:32, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Ads
If you feel like doing anything with the images, fine. I've left the template in place (at {{qxz-ads}}) for now, though I've TfD'd it. I've had enough of this place. Thanks for your nitpicky little comments early on. You really helped introduce me to the sort of place this really is. May new, energetic users continue to be put off by them for many years – Qxz09:44, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
Aww....
I tried using TWINKLE on a Windows 2000 with IE 6 installed, and, it doesn't work. The links, whenever I click them, don't do anything. Oh well. Just thought I'd tell you it doesn't work on IE probably. ДҖ--Huanghe63talk01:46, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I just saw your comment and unblock decline here: [2]. I think this was a misunderstanding on your part, though understandable for somebody not acquainted with the case. E is not a shared account, I can personally vouch for that. With "we", E was apparently referring to himself and his opponent, Tajik (talk·contribs), with whom he's been on a very long conflict and who was blocked together with him. - I'm not necessarily recommending to lift the block, just thought I'd correct this misunderstanding. Thanks, --Fut.Perf.☼13:38, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
No offense but I don't like your image any better then the previous image. You may notice on the talk page that some one suggested changing to "WIKI" and someone else came along and changed it. Two or three users have since posted challenges to that change that have gone un-responded to. If you would kindly change it back to no image (revert to 22:28, 4 March 2007[3] ), or at the very least to Image:Information icon.svg that would be wonderful. Jeepday13:48, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi there! I'm from Wikipedia:WikiProject Dinosaurs & we would like to get an ad on the Qxz-ads banner thingy. However, the user Qxz has left Wikipedia. Your name was on the template page also, so I thoguht coming here to ask you would be a good idea. So, 1) Can we please have an ad? 2) How might we go about getting an ad on the banner? & 3) Anything else important I should know about? Thanks, Spawn Man07:26, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Hello? You have replied to everyone else, but not to me... If you can't help that's fine, but would you be able to direct me to someone who could? Thanks... Spawn Man04:08, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
As the template isn't protect any more, you could your self add your own if you want, I'm not the best graphical designer, but if you need help creating one, I might be able to help. The template is Template:Qxz-ads→AzaToth13:02, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
Ads
Just wondering if you would be taking over Qxz's ads, now that he/she left. Also, congrats on your RfA. · AOTalk11:30, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
Not sure its kind to tell someone who deleted over 300 bus images by hand that you had a script all ready to do them... ;-) WjBscribe16:02, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
Oh, great and glorious one. I was thinking that it might do the various religion projects some good if maybe there were a line added to the template page for the various religion projects, maybe particularly the Saints project (which I'm on), and the newer Calvinism and Lutheranism projects as well. If you would know of any way to add a few "lines" to the page for these groups, or maybe for the newer projects in general, I think we would all be very grateful for your profound magnaminousness and generosity. And, yes, I really do talk this way, particularly when I'm trying to flatter people to get them to do something I want. :) John Carter16:57, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for protecting Anchor after my report of it. I have also reported the alleged vandal to 3RR notices, but the upshot is nothing will be done now that the page is protected. Fine by me if it solves the issue with this particular article, but the user who was doing the constant deletion of material (Russeasby) managed to get the last edit before the page was protected. I wonder if you might take a look and undo that revert. Badmonkey14:40, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for changing the tag; it made it pop on my watchlist. I completely forgot to unprotect this when the checkuser case that prompted this protection closed...--Isotope2317:46, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I'm a relative newbie when it comes to the issues with page protection etc. I'm wondering, what is the purpose of the full protection on the Tito Ortiz article? I've seen articles before under heavier vandalism frequency than this article, and the route has been to only semi-protect the page. Is it because of the sock-puppet? Are there not user blocks that could solve that?Sancho (talk) 17:53, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
That's unfortunate... I'm surprised there isn't a way to just ban the IP regardless of the user name that logs in from that IP. Do you know why that wouldn't work? Sancho (talk) 19:49, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Please check the addition I made to the Reza Shah article's discussion page. The troll User:Artaxerex that was attacking the editors and vandalizing related articles has been confirmed as a "puppetmaster" who's sockpuppets regularly vandalized and instigated Personal Attacks against all editors. [[4]]
RΞDVΞRS ✖ ЯΞVΞЯSΞ awards this Barnstar to AzaToth for patient explaining of obvious things to someone who should know better. Not that I mean me or anything *coughs*.
Hi Aza! I'm notoriously slow on following updates and changes in policy etc, so forgive the ignorance of the following: what's the difference between {{protected}} and {{pp-dispute}}?
Sorry if it's obvious or something an admin really should know. The fact is, I live most of my life in a haze of not-quite-understanding-what's-going-on and sometimes this overlaps into Wikipedia more than it should :o) RΞDVΞRS ✖ ЯΞVΞЯSΞ20:31, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Cool. Thanks for the links, which (belatedly) I will now read :o) Although, TBH, I stumbled upon this article and its weird edits and don't quite know if it's vandalism, dispute or just lunacy. Such a terribly fine line... Thanks again. RΞDVΞRS ✖ ЯΞVΞЯSΞ20:58, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
If non of the pre-made templates works, you can use the generic: {{pp-protected|reason=weird edits and don't quite know if it's vandalism, dispute or just lunacy}}→AzaToth21:00, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Even cooler! Saved on my desktop. And I've removed the template, lest people start having kittens over it being here. RΞDVΞRS ✖ ЯΞVΞЯSΞ21:24, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Templates
Hi Azatoth, I notice you're changing templates. [5] I think it's important not to mess around with these without good reason, because people are very familiar with them; the ones you want instead involved more letters to type; and it's hard to remember templates when they keep being changed, which is a source of some frustration. Can you say what the need for the change is? Cheers, SlimVirgin(talk)22:26, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
There has been a long discussion about the protection templates, so the new templates are the result of the discussion. First the naming scheme was inconsistent, second the style of the templates was inconsistent, third the parameter usage was inconsistent. →AzaToth22:33, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi. I noticed that you had semi protected this article, although there is no mention on the page that it is protected. I only discovered by accident, and was rather surprised. I'm not surprised that people want to add information to the page, because there has just been a new publicity release about the book. I am a little puzzled why this merits protection. The article has recently been fully protected fo a month or two supposedly because of a dispute over the 'meaning of hallows section'. I was rather bemused by this. I do not believe that there would have been outright war on the page had it not been protected at all. It seems far more likely to me that people would have engaged in their three reverts a few times and then settled down as consensus became clear. If a revert war is never allowed to run long enough for a few different people to show where they stand on an issue, then it never will be resolved. In this instance, the article was locked for a month while we argued about it, to no real conclusion, then was unlocked and settled down without the issue having been resolved. Then as a newcomer started another spat, again the issue was never given enough time to resolve itself before the page was locked.
This is a high traffic article, with lots of people adding to it, but while their edits may be hasty, it is not clear they are vandalism. As often as not, someone adds something which is already present somewhere else on the page already. It may inconvenience people to keep sorting it out, but surely that is not the point? 88.108.99.5623:59, 30 March 2007 (UTC)User: Sandpiper, I had to log out to check the page was protected, and now the auto log in is screwed.
no, my mistake I think. Got the wrong entry, it was not you sir. Though I still havn't figured out what happened. Found one request which seems to have been declined, yet it was protected? Sandpiper00:35, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Cheri DiNovo and Sylvia Watson protection
Why have you changed the protection level of the Cheri Dinovo page? It is subject to a high rate of vandelism, that's why Bearcat reinstated the protection in the first place. Please revert the protection.Abebenjoe00:20, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
no, we don't need rfa/rfb, they just was already included in the template I used, I'llk see if I can fork it itno something better. →AzaToth15:16, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Heya Azatoth. Why the protection change on The Freecycle Network page? I read your description above for the protection differences but in this case there still remains an unresolved AMA and ongoing unresolved dispute. I'm planning on following up on both shortly. Dharmaburning08:17, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the response though it's troubling. Given your description above, that pp-dispute is used for "reason=weird edits and don't quite know if it's vandalism, dispute or just lunacy," I don't understand how this is an argument of semantics. Based on your own description the two usages have vastly different applications. Your response here begs the question, back to my original question, if there's no difference between the two applications, why then did you make this change to the page? I don't believe you make random changes for no particular reason, so I'm curious what's up. Thanks in advance. Dharmaburning22:18, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Heeeelo. Don't mean to patronise, but the protection policy says that sprotection should not be used pre-emptively, like you did on April Fools Day. I was wondering if you'd consider unprotecting it? You never know, people might not vandalise it. --Deskana(ya rly)15:01, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Unprotecting it just so someone can reprotect it tomorrow morning seems a bit pointless, especially as it was already getting vandalism. – Steel15:11, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
The point of the "graylinks" in {{usercheck}} was that, even if the subpages titled with that username do not exist, there may be a mention or #anchor of that username on the main topic page, for instance:
If there is no WP:RFARB/John Doe, that may only mean the case hasn't been accepted for arbitration yet; the case may be on the main topic page, as WP:RFARB#John Doe, or even possibly under a heading with several names or an article name. The "graylink" looks for WP:RFARB#John Doe, and otherwise leaves you at WP:RFARB to do a text search.
If there is no WP:RFCU/John Doe or WP:SSP/John Doe, that means he hasn't been reported as a "puppetmaster"... but maybe he's been reported as one of the "sockpuppets". The graylink takes you to the main topic page so you can text-search.
If the user hasn't been reported/nominated at all, you may want to report/nominate him yourself. The "graylinks" help you do so.
I have been using {{usercheck}} not only to help discuss proposed community bans, but also to research existing community bans that had been logged at WP:BANNED without links to the relevant discussions.
Your changes have disabled parts of {{usercheck}} that I was using.
If you want a template with "disappearing" links, may I suggest {{vandal-m}}, which already has them? That way you can have what you apparently want, without destroying the research tool I was using.
Making {{usercheck}} redundant to {{vandal-m}} only makes it a good candidate for TfD. Why have two templates that do the same thing?
Oh, and "count" was next to "contribs" because they are two ways of looking at the same thing: the user's contributions history. They were grouped by topic, not by the server on which they were located.
I would like to be able to continue cleanup on WP:BANNED. May I have back the research tool I was using to do that job? Please? I would really appreciate that. Thank you. -- BenTALK/HIST17:43, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Oh, I didn't know about that template, it was for {{pp-usertalk}}, I'll just revert it then, and use the other template, thanks for pointing it out. →AzaToth17:47, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
My Userpage
I'm very glad I didn't have any drink in my mouth at the time...I definitely got a good chuckle out of that. And to think, I didn't go because of my watchlist, I just happened to click on my username and noticed the great big pink padlock. It's gonna stay there for the time being. If you can think up a good caption, by all means add it. ^demon[omg plz]20:40, 31 March 2007 (UTC)