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Full track[edit]

I have created a full version of the track at commons:File:06U 2024 path (full).png. Can I upload it or is the official track preferred? 2003 LN 6 17:32, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sure! you can upload it, but make sure that people are okay with it first Accordthemusician (talk) 18:25, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If people are happy with this path, I wouldn't mind merging it with commons:File:06U 2024 path.png. Again, up to the community though.

Thanks! JustThatNerdyNerd (Let's chat!) 23:00, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Being careful[edit]

Without a source we need to be extremely careful about calling 06U/05F the third longest tropical system on record, since officially it was only tropical system from February 1 until it moved out of their AOR on February 28 or in other-words 28 days which is the same as Rewa 1993.Jason Rees (talk) 19:45, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

yeah, that's true

in the Australian basin, it formed on the 30th of January, so if you're talking logically, its 29 (or technically 30) days, but I get where you're coming from Accordthemusician (talk) 00:18, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

oh yeah i forgor[edit]

This is my very first article, and I may have screwed stuff up, but I tried my best to make it much like other articles of this kind

we also reached 10K bytes :D Accordthemusician (talk) 00:19, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merge of Tropical Depression 05F (2024) into Australian region and South Pacific[edit]

CONSENSUS EXISTS

Consensus for a merge exists. Noah, AA^Talk 13:42, 15 March 2024 (UTC) (non-admin closure)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

I propose merging Tropical Depression 05F (2024) into 2023–24 Australian region and South Pacific. I think that article can be easily merged because there is no source to describe the longest tropical cyclone system, and if you search on Google about this article, there is little information about preparations and impact. For further information about standalone pages, see: WP:NOPAGE. HurricaneEdgar 11:32, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support - the TD did little and its narrative can be told easily in the season articles. Hurricanehink mobile (talk) 16:06, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support - Per above reasoning, also additionally the claim that it is the third-longest living cyclone on record is extremely dubious given that for half of its life it was only tracked by the FMS, with ATCF showing the system dissipating much quicker. Sria-72 (talk) 21:50, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support - To me, for a TC to have its own article, it has to have bad land impacts and/or general wind strength. This didn't really meet either of my criteria.

Thanks! JustThatNerdyNerd (Let's chat!) 22:57, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that it should be merged, but there are things like the 2006 Central Pacific cyclone, the 2005 Azores subtropical storm, Hurricane Grace (1991), Hurricane Epsilon (2005), Tropical Storm Zeta (2005), Hurricane Dora (2023), Hurricane Hector (2018), Hurricane Kilo, Hurricane Genevieve (2014), and Hurricane Olga. 2003 LN 6 03:08, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support - There is also nothing special really about this low. Yes it was a little more long lived than usual, but considering the actual history of this low, and the fact the article is around the same size as in the two season articles, I recon we just merge these articles. Thanks! JustThatNerdyNerd (Let's chat!) 11:42, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support: Nothing in the article suggests notability, and lifespan is dubious. Sadustu Tau (talk) 08:49, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Why did it get its own article in the first place? Thanks! JustThatNerdyNerd (Let's chat!) 09:23, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

:Wait - I feel that a decent article can be made out of the system and that there is more out there that talks about the impacts from 05F/06U, we are after all talking about impacts in Vanuatu, New Caledonia and Fiji.Jason Rees (talk) 10:48, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If impacts are added and there is enough to flesh out the article, sure, but right now there isn't that content in the article, and it could be easily split across two seasonal articles. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 19:20, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

~~:Oppose per @Jason Rees reasoning. Ominateu (talk) 15:25, 3 March 2024 (UTC)~~ (checkuser blocked) HurricaneEdgar 22:45, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support Since there have been no impacts discovered for a few days and I couldn’t verify the record. 108.58.37.250 (talk) 13:10, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, the claim of the longest tropical cyclone is WP:OR, and the FMS is still tracking the system (the BoM reported that the disturbance had dissipated), and there are no sources to prove its longest lived. Wait for the post-analysis of the storm. HurricaneEdgar 13:24, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support – no apparent lasting effect or impacts of standalone, noteworthy significance beyond heavy rain warnings and some flooding. From what I've been able to find, there is little continuing coverage of impacts across the island countries in the South Pacific. The storm can be adequately summarized at the aforementioned cyclone season pages. —TheAustinMan^{(Talk ⬩ Edits)} 16:03, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I am rather busy in real life and had hoped that I would be able to find some time to research 05F/06U in depth, however, this months Fiji Islands Climate Summary convinces me that the system didn't cause many impacts and that it isn't worth my time researching it in depth.Jason Rees (talk) 23:49, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support merge – No noteworthy impact, little media coverage, details can easily fit within the season articles. Drdpw (talk) 13:36, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support merge for lack of impacts and WP:SIGCOV. DJ Cane _(he/him) (Talk) 21:56, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Not a deletionist but still...fails WP:SIGCOV. 2003 LN 6 05:11, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.