Talk:Statue of Edward Colston/GA2
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Reviewer: Hog Farm (talk · contribs) 17:19, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
- Lead
- Colston's years alive are in the lead uncited, but do not appear anywhere else in the article, so they're kinda uncited
Added, reusing citation #2 for this. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 20:26, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
- Description
- How many dolphins are on the plaque?
- four (one on each corner). Added to text. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 20:26, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
- Controversy
- "Cole stated that his aim was "to try to get people to think"" - Coles, not Cole
- Looks from the picture like the sculpture took some damage (holes and breaking). Do any RS discuss this?
- Added a bit on this but may need some further tweaks to the prose. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 14:23, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
This is all for the prose. I'm gonna have some referencing comments, but I've got to take a break now. More to come. Hog Farm Bacon 18:17, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
- References (ref numbers from this revision
- Ref 6: Remove "BBC – History", and then add the two authors and the publication date. Use BBC as the publisher, and drop the website field
- partially by DeFacto - I've additionally dropped the website field in place of publisher. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 20:26, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
- Latimer needs the publisher, publishing location, and the OCLC
- Bristol Radical History Group does not appear to be an RS
- We can swap out the stuff they're verifying. They seem to be using a few very old newspapers etc as their source (eg the Bristol Mercury). There are archives of it here for example, so I can swap those out for the direct source, but I don't have access to British Newspaper Archive to verify. Will try to ask if someone has access, or see if I can find another way to access. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 14:23, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah, try WP:RSX if you need help.
- So I've gotten access to the papers and swapped out the source. Basically, reading through, I gather the following: £407 was raised from appeals at the time the statue was put up. The Treasuer paid the £800 which it cost. Public appeals were made to collect the rest of the funds. At the end of 1985, £650 was collected. What came of the remaining £150 I don't know, it's not in these copies. Perhaps the debt was waived, or as the Bristol Radical History Group claims it was anonymously donated, but I can't find anything to verify it. Suggestions on what to do? I guess we'll just have to leave out the £150 part, and only explain up to the £650 we can source?
- Yeah, we can only explain as much as the RS will allow us to. Hog Farm Bacon 18:24, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
- Done. May need to re-check prose on this section. Also if I've done the {{cite news}} right? ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 18:51, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah, we can only explain as much as the RS will allow us to. Hog Farm Bacon 18:24, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
- So I've gotten access to the papers and swapped out the source. Basically, reading through, I gather the following: £407 was raised from appeals at the time the statue was put up. The Treasuer paid the £800 which it cost. Public appeals were made to collect the rest of the funds. At the end of 1985, £650 was collected. What came of the remaining £150 I don't know, it's not in these copies. Perhaps the debt was waived, or as the Bristol Radical History Group claims it was anonymously donated, but I can't find anything to verify it. Suggestions on what to do? I guess we'll just have to leave out the £150 part, and only explain up to the £650 we can source?
- Yeah, try WP:RSX if you need help.
- We can swap out the stuff they're verifying. They seem to be using a few very old newspapers etc as their source (eg the Bristol Mercury). There are archives of it here for example, so I can swap those out for the direct source, but I don't have access to British Newspaper Archive to verify. Will try to ask if someone has access, or see if I can find another way to access. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 14:23, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
- Wilkins needs the OCLC
- "A petition to remove the statue had garnered more than 11,000 signatures" - Close paraphrasing, the source says "A petition to remove it had garnered more than 11,000 signatures". That's way to close of paraphrasing
- removed close paraphrasing. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 20:31, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
- What makes Inspiring City a RS?
- Nothing, I guess. It isn't verifying anything the other source isn't anyway, I suppose, so have removed. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 20:26, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
- Ref 77 - Drop the via parameter, and use BBC as the publisher
- Via dropped. Just to clarify, do you mean change to
|publisher=? ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 20:26, 22 October 2020 (UTC)- Yes.
- Also looks like the other cites to "BBC News" currently are also using
|work=. Should they all be changed to|publisher=BBC? ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 20:54, 22 October 2020 (UTC)- I'd say so.
- One of my changes on this were reverted, see edit summary of Special:Diff/984912890. I'm not particularly familiar with cite templates, so not sure what the standard is. Comments? ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 14:23, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
- It's fine as it is, I guess. Not a big deal.
- One of my changes on this were reverted, see edit summary of Special:Diff/984912890. I'm not particularly familiar with cite templates, so not sure what the standard is. Comments? ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 14:23, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
- I'd say so.
- Also looks like the other cites to "BBC News" currently are also using
- Yes.
- Via dropped. Just to clarify, do you mean change to
I did some more spot checks, which came up clean. Placing on hold. Hog Farm Bacon 21:25, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.