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November 16, 2022Proposed deletionKept

"Fascist demagogue"[edit]

Source for “fascist demagogue”? 2600:1017:A410:E45F:6CC4:2F25:9F57:752C (talk) 11:10, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's been removed; clearly a POV edit. — Czello (music) 11:13, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

First sentence[edit]

I fully understand wanting to provide context to whom Donald Trump is, but the first opening sentence "Donald Trump, the 45th president of the United States from 2017 to 2021," sounds slightly weird to say out loud and could be ambiguous to anyone completely unfamiliar with American politics, such as readers from other continents. Makes it sound like there's potential for other 45th presidents that served different time periods, or that others in different governmental positions have also been in charge in the same time frame. It's solved very easily by either removing "45th", removing "from 2017 to 2021", or changing it to read "Donald Trump, the 45th president of the United States, who served from 2017 to 2021". Thank you for your time. 2001:2042:6A0F:100:3D93:C75B:5089:5AE7 (talk) 12:22, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have added "who served from..." per your suggestion, and I agree the previous wording was a bit too ambiguous. A. Randomdude0000 (talk) 15:09, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ludicruous bias[edit]

Everything about this page is ludicrously biased, and far from encyclopedic. Many of the sources are pure opinion pieces, and shouldn't be included in the first place. I can understand that Trump isn't popular with the Wikipedia community, but this doesn't read like a non-partisan account of his actions. Ravenofpoe1 (talk) 07:36, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"doesn't read like a non-partisan account" Who said anything about non-partisan? Per Wikipedia's policy, we summarise what we find in reliable sources. The sources are not required to be neutral or non-partisan. See the policy on Bias in sources:
    • "A common argument in a dispute about reliable sources is that one source is biased, meaning another source should be given preference. Some editors argue that biased sources should not be used because they introduce improper POV to an article. However, biased sources are not inherently disallowed based on bias alone, although other aspects of the source may make it invalid. A neutral point of view should be achieved by balancing the bias in sources based on the weight of the opinion in reliable sources and not by excluding sources that do not conform to the editor's point of view." Dimadick (talk) 17:48, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Any "pure opinion pieces" should be attributed to their authors. Note, though, that articles that sound like opinion because you don't like them are not the same as actual opinion pieces. EvergreenFir (talk) 17:53, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This article is tweeibly written. It comes off like a clear political agenda. Any consideration I ever had of giving another dime to wikipedia os gone. An encyclopedia should be non partican and non biased and this is full of highly skewed opinion and worded deliberatly to influence readers to the author's views. This should never be posted in any encyclopedia of any form. 195.252.213.236 (talk) 14:03, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
100% agree. I’m in the UK and have no dog in this fight, but when every single source is from a selection of politically slanted sources, it’s disgustingly obvious. It strikes me that the people who do this don’t care about truth or balance and rely on the people reading it to have low attention or low intelligence. It’s as condescending as it is shameless. 217.33.222.26 (talk) 14:38, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
every single source is from a selection of politically slanted sources You'll have trouble with that argument considering the following are used as sources: Hindustan News, Fox, Forbes, Deseret News, Associated Press, Haaretz, BBC, University of Pennsylvania Law Review, Staten Island Advance, USA Today, C-SPAN, Tampa Bay Times, and the National Review. O3000, Ret. (talk) 15:20, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]