Talk:All Watched Over by Machines of Loving Grace

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Came across this published at MyMac in 1999 (via Brautigan.net). It's about the poem, but it seems kind of superficial -- a historical curiosity validating late-90s Silicon Valley technoutopianism. Since I don't know that MyMac is a sufficiently reliable source and can't take much more from it than "yeah, the Internet is awesome," I'm just putting it here for the time being. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 02:58, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Reviewer: Eddie891 (talk · contribs) 23:38, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I intend to review this. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 23:38, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

How long is the poem?
- Added the numbers, but it's just my own count. That ok? — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 00:19, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, the source you cite has the poem-- easy enough to simply count or plug into a character counter to independently verify. This is fundamentally a basic calculation. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 00:56, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 04:10, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Books such as FN 5 are wanting of page numbers-- not seeing where it supports the text "Most critics take the poem as a counterculture, communitarian adoption of Cold War-era technological visions."
- Added some page numbers where quotes are used. In that example, I modified the sentence and added a couple cites. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 04:10, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
FN 7 is broken
- Done — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 04:10, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Who is Vijay Nambisan? From the quote alone, I'm not sure what it means when he says he chose it. For what?
- From what I gather, he selected poems for The Hindu and that was the one he featured that day. I added some context. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 04:10, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Who is Steven Moore?
- Done — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 04:10, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Who is Robert J. Gangeware?
- Done — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 04:10, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
"of our relationship with technology" suggest rephrasing to remove the collective "our"-- which doesn't say who 'our' is
- Done — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 04:10, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Suggest a brief gloss of who The Diggers were in the article-- also what does saying he "gave" it to them mean? Did he give permission, copyright, something else?

Some thoughts to kick us off. these are all suggestions, nothing too major sticking out. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 23:48, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Clarified, added a bit a bout the Diggers. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 04:10, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Haven't found any major sources that would greatly expand the article Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 01:37, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Eddie891: I think I've addressed the above. Sorry (sort of) to say, I did find a few more citations and added a bit more to the article. :) — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 04:10, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Eddie891: Thanks for the review. I've just come across a book which has some useful passages. It may take a couple days to go through it and address the above. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 04:35, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
No worries, take your time. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 13:36, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I've been through the changes and am satisfied with them Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 14:42, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Other checks: Sources are reliable, earwigs indicates no copyvio. Spot checked a couple and they line up. I'm satisfied this meets the GA criteria. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 14:46, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]