Talk:Albert Camus/GA1

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Reviewer: Sainsf (talk · contribs) 18:27, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Appears fairly long but well-written. Sorry it had to wait so long. I will post my comments soon :) Sainsf (talk · contribs) 18:27, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Sainsf, I look forward to your assessment. Cinadon36 19:02, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

General comments

No copyvio concerns, dablinks or broken external links detected. Only two duplinks (in 'Algeria'): Berbers and Alger républicain
- Fixed [1] Cinadon36 17:38, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Sourcing: Looks reliable and sufficient. A few points:

A few parts in Political stance however lack inline citations.
- Doing...Cinadon36 17:41, 20 April 2020 (UTC) Done. Cinadon36 09:53, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Are all the works in 'Works' mentioned with proper sources earlier? For those that are not it would be good to add inline citations

** Doing...Cinadon36 10:55, 21 April 2020 (UTC) Done. I removed a subsection of works published after his death. It seems that these titles didnot receive much attention by other authors.Cinadon 36 09:33, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I am impressed by the citations. I would suggest adding the '|trans-title=' and '|language=' parameters to foreign language sources. Does the Boulouque, Sylvain (2000) source have no identifier?
- ~~Doing...~~. On Boulouque, the ref was at the article before I got involved and I tried to respect all RS that I found. I do not not know french to double check the source. I just changed the format of the citation. Cinadon36 09:33, 23 April 2020 (UTC) After some consideration and lot of google-search, I removed the specific sentence. It was not of huge significance and I couldn't locate the source.Cinadon36 12:48, 23 April 2020 (UTC) As for the trans titles, I did it for Catelli's book, since I could spot the translated term in an article at The Guardia[2], but I am hesitant doing the same for Albert Camus : l'exigence morale (L'Esprit des Lettres) since that would be OR...Cinadon36 13:24, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - I see. I think these changes should do. Sainsf (talk · contribs) 16:33, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    - yeap.Cinadon 36 18:45, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comments on prose

Well-written and grammatically accurate on the whole. A few queries and suggestions:

French Algerian philosopher Why not use a single link to French Algeria?
- Fixed[3] Cinadon36 13:44, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
He won the Nobel Prize in Literature at the age of 44 in 1957, the second-youngest recipient in history. Would be good to mention the first one too

It 's already there, at main body ("At age 44, he was the second-youngest recipient of the prize, after Rudyard Kipling, who was 42")Cinadon36 17:48, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I meant in the lead. Sainsf (talk · contribs) 17:59, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hm, I feel it is a bit trivial info to have a place in the lede. Cinadon36 18:05, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

He was in Paris when the Germans invaded France Maybe provide the year here? Also for During the Algerian War
- Done[4][5] Cinadon36 17:56, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Camus was politically active. He was part of the Left that opposed the Soviet Union because of its totalitarianism These two lines would look better if combined by a semicolon or an emdash.
- I 've added a semicolon [6] Cinadon36 18:00, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Spanish-(Balearic) descent Why the brackets?
- Removed [7] Cinadon36 18:01, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hence, he was called pied-noir Here 'pied-noir' is in italics, but not in the lead. Any one format should be used conysistently.
- Changed to italics [8] Cinadon36 07:55, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
In 1933, he also met Simone Hié Was she someone he met at college? Any background to that?
- She was a partner of a friend. Added.[9] Cinadon36 13:05, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I have never come across a section title like 'Young Camus', also it's not so suitable as the previous section also describes most of his teenage (mostly up to 1933).. I wonder if 'Formative years' would look better?
- Yeap, seems better [10] Cinadon36 13:12, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
and had not read Das Kapital (Capital) Sounds a bit like reading this book should commonly precede the generation of communist belief.
- Lol, you are right, its a bit redundant. Removed. Cinadon36 13:15, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Because of his tuberculosis, he was forced to move to the French Alps Not sure why he moved, was it his health? Could be clarified.
- Doctor suggested it (per source).[11] Cinadon36 13:27, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Lettres à un ami allemand (Letters to a German Friend) Should the German name also be in title case like the English one?
- You are prob right. Changed. [12] Cinadon36 14:41, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comité français pour la féderation européenne Should be in italics and probably title case
- Changed to italics [13] Cinadon36 14:42, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The second was an unfinished novel, Le Premier homme (The First Man) 'H' in homme (There might be other instances)
- Changed [14] Cinadon36 14:44, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The publication of this book in 1994 has sparked a widespread reconsideration of Camus's allegedly unrepentant colonialism I don't see why this needs to be a separate paragraph, looks better if merged with the previous one.
- Ofcourse [15]. Cinadon36 14:46, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
'Algeria' does not sound like a proper section title.. maybe something like 'Role in Algeria' works? Or maybe merge the material from here into previous sections?
- The section is discussing the relation between Algeria and Camus. Maybe "Relation of Camus and Algeria"? Doesnt sound as a perfect title. I will think a little more, and if I do not come up with something else, I will add "Role in Algeria". Or maybe "Camus and Algeria", I have seen it used elsewhere in the literature, but cant remember where... Cinadon36 14:54, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - "Role in Algeria" sounds the best to me, but of course decide on the one which you feels suits the most. Sainsf (talk · contribs) 16:33, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    - Role in Algeria it is then. [16] I couldnt come up with something better.Cinadon 36 18:45, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The rest looks good to me. Thanks for this interesting read :) Sainsf (talk · contribs) 16:55, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Well then, everything looks great :) Promoted! Sainsf (talk · contribs) 22:04, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks Sainsf for taking this GAN. I 'd also like to thank you for your comments and points- the article looks much better now. Cinadon36 08:25, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]