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Mohd Redzuan Suhaidi-notable or not

So I am looking over the bios eligible for deletion-as expected about 95% of them are people such as actors/actresses or sports people with EL's (or at least pages on other wikis), well anyway-this one Mohd Redzuan Suhaidi is a footballer I'm not sure if notable or not and I noticed that you have tagged the creator of the article pages for deletion, there are other footballers I found without pages but this one stood out more. Wgolf (talk) 20:09, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Here are some more if you are interested: Jornata Waresura, Hamed Al-Hamed and Freddy Elie. Wgolf (talk) 20:24, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Wgolf: I'd need more sources to be sure, but assuming the content of the article is accurate, then Mohd Redzuan Suhaidi does not meet notability guidelines. Only the top flight of Malaysian football is fully pro, and the article claims that he has only played in the s

I found Freddy Elie on the Spanish wiki-however this one says he was born in 1946 and not 1966-hmmm so same guy or not? Wgolf (talk) 20:34, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Wgolf: That's probably a typo in the prose of the English article. The infobox says he was born '46. Sir Sputnik (talk) 20:36, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks-might want to check out this https://en.luquay.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Saeed_shawkat_1998 quite a few unsourced BLP's for footballers. Wgolf (talk) 20:44, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Here is another I found: Kelvin Ponde (which the creator has a article of Kurt Joyce with NO info at all!). Wgolf (talk) 18:50, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Emil Tîmbur(the page you deleted)

Hello again.i read your words.thanks.but i have questions.i still do not understand,and i hardly will. This is part of your message | Sir Sputnik - which says that a footballer is notable if he has played for his country's senior national team or in one of the fully professional leagues listed here Ok,but how can be this footballer notable Jonathan Leko ? He has 0 games at senior level for his club and 0 games for senior national football. Why his page is not deleted ??? That is the difference between him and Emil Tîmbur ??? You will probably say that he played one game in League cup.but the League cup is not listed in the link you post to me,same like Moldovan second division. Thank you,i just wanted to understand.it looks like double standards at least. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kolya77 (talk • contribs) 16:48, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Zoltán Farkas (footballer)

Dear User:Sir Sputnik! You delete my edition Zoltán Farkas (footballer). You said transfermarkt not trusted source, thats right. But I found the players in SV Friedburg website. (http://vereine.fussballoesterreich.at/ooe/SvLugsteinCabsFriedburg/839366849876607206_839366850681913710_1082889709102895283,de.html) Please let my contribution. Thanks Sczipo (talk) 08:56, 6 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Sczipo: If you have reliable sources to verify the material I removed, then by all means add it back to the article. Just be sure to cite your sources properly. Cheers. Sir Sputnik (talk) 22:30, 7 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Fodbold-fan

Revert, warn, report. I've issued a level 3 warning, and turned the Adnan Mohammed page into a disambig. Giant Snowman 09:56, 8 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Joshua Travagli‎

My apologies for my mistaken deprod. I've supported the AFD. Meters (talk) 05:01, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Mike Smet and Roy Meeus

Hi there, my comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jo Christiaens apply to these articles as well. PS I appreciate you coming to me first rather than going straight to AFD. Giant Snowman 18:21, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Pedro Jeanine

Hi. That could be my bad. I approved it from AfC. I checked the San Francisco F.C. article, for which they play, and are they not a professional team? This is why I usually stay away from Soccer (football) articles. The guidelines for notability are pretty whack. If we applied the same standards to baseball players, for instance, every minor league player would be eligible for an article. However, the FC article says they are the top tier in that particular country. If I got it wrong, please let me know. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 20:49, 12 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Onel5969: You've made the classic mistake that just about everyone not familiar with soccer notability guidelines makes: You've not distinguished between professional and fully-professional soccer (the latter being the standard laid out in the guideline). While there is not doubt that there is some degree of professionalism in the top league in Panama, whether or not the league is fully pro (all players paid enough to not require other jobs) is not verified. For the purposes of the guideline, the WikiProject Football maintains a list of fully professional leagues at WP:FPL. You'll note that Panama is not on the list. This is largely due to the absence of reliable sources on the matter, which means at best we cannot verify a claim to notability under that guideline. JoeDecker's closing remarks from Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tarlan Guliyev concerning another league of unverified pro status sum the situation up nicely:

In this instance, NFOOTY gives a plainly ambiguous result. Having looked to the April discussion at WT:NFOOTY, I find that while there was a consensus to remove the League from the FPL, I do not see that there is a consensus about whether the league is or isn't fully-professional, it is instead simply so far unverified either way. We don't know.

I'm left with the view that any argument based on NFOOTY here is pretty weak, and I have weighted NFOOTY arguments in general here quite weakly. In addition, SNGs in general and NFOOTY in particular is usually, as a matter of textual interpretation, treated as putting the burden of proof on those wishing to show notability via the criteria, which further reduced the weight of keep arguments based on NFOOTY.

In cases like this, WP:GNG is the determining factor and the general guideline is definitely not met here. What little coverage Pedro Jeanine has received is routine sports coverage that you would expect of just about any soccer player, notable or otherwise. I hope that clears things. If you have any further questions, please let me know. Sir Sputnik (talk) 22:07, 12 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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NAC

Did you assess the strength of the arguments on this one before closing, because the detailed analysis of the sources invalidates the points of the people voting keep. https://en.luquay.com/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Nichole_Mead I'd prefer to see it relisted for others to look at the new information. Legacypac (talk) 01:38, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I need to ask you to reconsider your close...

...here [1], given the large number of Keeps from SPAs, and the preponderance of other keep comments that clearly show a lack of comprehension of the nomination rationale. The outcome at this point would be, at best, No consensus but more importantly it's puzzling why you closed this nom before even the usual 7 days had passed. EEng (talk) 02:04, 18 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@EEng: Let me start with your last comment. Please recheck the timestamps, as this page was nominated on 11 December and closed 7 days later on 18 December. I assume that this is a time zone issue and that it is not yet 18 December where you are. Second, with most commenters specifically calling out the suitability of standalone article, I see no reason to think that commenters have misunderstood the nomination. Just because someone disagrees with you does not mean they have misunderstood you. Finally, you would do well to re-read WP:SPA. Many editors consider the "single-purpose" label insulting, and you are consistently getting it wrong. Just for example, you are suggesting that an editor who regularly edits articles on the oldest people and football (soccer) in England is single-purpose. Regards. Sir Sputnik (talk) 03:16, 18 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies if I was off a day. Your response underscores the importance of making sure non-admins don't make closes in this fraught topic area. (And no, the SPA tags are completely appropriate, including that for the sometime football editor.) Thanks anyway. EEng (talk) 03:28, 18 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]